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This shit is worse than when white folks were saying back in the day that it was Elvis Presley who invented rock ‘n’ roll. It’s out of control. Next thing we’ll be hearing from white gays about black history is that blacks where each handed forty acres and a mule by a jubilant welcoming committee right as they stepped off of those wonderful six-week Princess cruise vacation deals that imported them across the Atlantic from Africa.

Considering the fabrications white gay male culture has for the last two years indulged in regarding black America’s journey to civil rights we don’t see the above as a stretch by any means.

We heard this tale all this year over and over and over and over again until this week: They didn’t survey to intergrate the military for blacks. Truman just did it.

Before that we endured all of last year: Truman issued an executive order to end segregation in the military…blah blah and more blah blah cause my lack of white privilege neurosis flairs up when I think blacks had it easier than I do…blah blah blah.

So we had to endure the executive order fable until the truth came out: Yea, Truman did issue an executive order in 1948. Six years later, the military was officially desegregated. Gay white men shut the hell up quick, fast and a hurry after that overlooked portion of Truman’s “fix all in a jiffy” executive order was brought to light. Of course the bliss was bound to end.

This year we’ve been treated with their latest reinvention of African American history—-the absence of a survey to desegregate the military prior to Truman’s executive order. Here’s a nice hodge podge collection of self-appointed gay white male historians on military procedures setting the record straight for one and all. Featured are both items concerning the military and African American historical events that these men decided weren’t nearly as interesting in raw form as they could be if they reinvented the chain of events concerning blacks in the military to suit their own purposes:

Service Members Legal Defense Network Website

~An excerpt from the post:  Pentagon Should Look to Allies, not Surveys, for Answers on Open Service

Most recently when women were integrated onto submarines, the Navy did not conduct surveys. When women were integrated into the military academies in 1976, male service members were not surveyed. And when African Americans were fully integrated into the armed services, white service members and their families were not surveyed to determine their views.

Washington Post: Gay Rights Group Warns Service Members Not To Take Don’t Ask Don’t Tell Survey (Responses)

I’m sure that if Harry Truman had surveyed the troops in 1948 as to their level of enthusiasm at having to share their barracks with blacks, and even take showers with them, and GASP even take orders from them, they would have been wildly enthusiastic, even the ones from states that were barred interracial marriage.

Since Surfchick claims to be a Black woman with decades of experience as a military brat, and appears to be the only black woman I’ve ever encountered who refers to President Obama as “Barry” (unless she knew him from an earlier life?), her perspectives will be invaluable.

Posted by: edallan | July 8, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

The all volunteer military does make a difference. No, there wasn’t a survey about blacks in 1948, but that was a draftee military which was much lower tech, and therefore enlistment or retention weren’t as critical. Attitudes on serving and being quartered with openly homosexual personnel could effect recruiting and retention and that effect is something the military needs to know. Bias in the survey should be corrected, however DoD isn’t noted for it’s experience or expertise in surveying troop attitudes; perfection the first time is unlikely, and getting better assistance in creating the poll would be wise. It might also be wise to survey High school seniors and college students on this and other factors that would make them more or less likely join the military. Serving military might also be asked the same question regarding remaining in the military. Some groups might not like the answers, but policy makers should know the attitudes of those serving and the recruiting pool. It should be remembered that the military is an instrument to fight wars if needed, not a tool for social engineering.

Posted by: M1Rifleman1940 | July 9, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

@M1Rifleman1940

Are you suggesting that if the 1948 army had been all-volunteer and hi-tech, the military might have been justified in deciding whether to integrate on the basis of a survey about attitudes toward blacks?

Posted by: guez | July 9, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Queerty: Sen. Carl Levin Doesn’t Want DADT Survey Results To Be Made Public. Should They?

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No. 11 · sixfeetunder

Am still sickened that no such survey was administered re blacks in the military. Truman just signed an order and poof, it was done! No segregated military. Why can’t Obama do this?

No. 14 · PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS

First and foremost the military is the furtherst thing in the world from a democracy where those in the lower ranks have any say in any aspect of their existence. The rankings down determine that those at each lesser rank are expected to be in full compliance with all directives that come from above. No questions asked any time for any reason. “Military cohesivness” is the reason and never on any issue prior to this has there even been a discussion of having input from enlisted men. More vile bullshit that we the second class citizens of this country are subjected to. As correctly pointed out above there was never any questions asked when Blacks and women were intergrated into the ranks. The white supremacists were never asked “would you mind at all sharing your shower with a colored fellow”? They were issued an order and expected to follow it, if not they were subject to punishment.

Only we, the Gays have to put up with this absolute fucking bullshit where vile scumbags who revel in casting hate upon our community are pandered to and allowed to spew this garbage at every single fucking opportunity…………

Washington Blade: Pentagon Troop Survey is Outrageous, Offensive

Greg Cottom Shephard said:

Since when do low-ranking soldiers give input into policies? Were they asked about integrating blacks and other ethnic groups with other soldiers? Were high-ranking officers given a year to figure out how to integrate blacks? NOT. Since allowing gays to serve in the military hasn’t had major impacts in other countries…it should be a done deal..NO

Gay365.com Military tells Congress to keep gay ban for now

customartist July 10, 2010 at 8:42 am

There was no survey of white personnel in reference to allowing blacks into the military.

So based upon that fact, and the Federal Court ruling on Thursday determining once again that Gays are indeed a Suspect Class, I would definitely say that the very act of conducting a “Gay Survey” by the Federal Government is in violation of the equal protection principles in the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment.

Judge Tauro wrote “[T]he Constitution ‘neither knows nor tolerates classes among citizens.’”83

Of course this is in reference to DOMA not DADT.

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